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inlovewithnight (inlovewithnight) wrote,
@ 2008-12-21 10:18:00

Yesterday Likeadeuce-from-LJ came to visit, and it was great fun; she brought me a giant stack of comics and we talked about lots of fangirly things. We also went to a comic/book swap hosted by someone from her flist, which was fun, though I was wayyyy out of my depth to be discussing any sort of comics canon with these people (case in point: discussion of Oliver Quinn, I said something vague about "but he was mean to Roy" and then IT WAS ON about how very Wrong On The Internet I was). Also, saying "Really all I'm interested in in the DCU is Jason Todd" will get you a lot of blank stares from normal fans. :(

But! Deuce loaned me the three trades so far of the current incarnation of Immortal Iron Fist, and I'm all asquee. I read the first one last night, and Danny Rand is just great, and the appearance by Luke, Misty, and Colleen makes me want to go find some Heroes For Hire. So awesome. (Luke/Danny/Misty/Colleen foursome alllllllways.)

I'm having the critical twinges regarding Danny Rand the white-boy scion of a megacompany being The Champion of Mystical Asian Kingdom, but, well, old-school Marvel backstory and I'm not sure what's to be done about it.

I also love how the Iron Fist mythology *really* seems to parallel the Slayer mythology, and I want to know if this is from the old Iron Fist stuff and so maybe inspired Joss, or if Fraction and Brubaker in re-launching it borrowed *from* Joss. And I want like a million fics about the past Iron Fists. Especially the female one we glimpse briefly in the first trade. Maybe there will be more about her. Deuce seemed to think there was, but she didn't remember very well.

Also also, while I'm being ridiculous about this anyway, there needs to be some kind of Danny Rand porn that incorporates an "Iron Fist" pun. What?

In other news, Racetrack panicked at Deuce being in her house, because she is antisocial, and bit the hell out of me when I tried to pick her up and move her, so that wasn't quite so great. And I really need to do laundry and buy groceries today, but I don't WANT to. So. Dilemma.

<3

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oneangrykate
2008-12-21 09:44 am UTC (link)

I'm having the critical twinges regarding Danny Rand the white-boy scion of a megacompany being The Champion of Mystical Asian Kingdom, but, well, old-school Marvel backstory and I'm not sure what's to be done about it.
I have the same problem, alas. And I'm pretty sure that Bru & Co. developed the Iron Fist legacy idea, and while I've never thought of the Slayer parallels, they are totally there!

Also, those people are wrong. Ollie WAS mean to Roy, and Jason Todd is the coolest thing to ever cool.

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inlovewithnight
2008-12-21 09:53 am UTC (link)

I did like that at least in the flashbacks to past Iron Fists, they seemed to be showing that actual, you know, *Asian people* having the power and protecting their land was the norm and that Danny and Randall were aberrations. Also, the girl Iron Fist who figured out how to put the power into her arrows was totally badass. ::<3's her!:: She's TOTALLY a Slayer.

I believe the sum-up of the defense of Ollie was "And anyway, Roy is over it, so it doesn't matter." ?

I will carry the Jason torch into any and all enclaves of the enemy. ::solidarity::

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	oneangrykate 2008-12-21 11:38 am UTC (link)
	The issue with the lady Iron Fist is probably my favorite in the series, aside from the Heroes for Hire action in #6. I have no idea what's going on in the series now, but the constant introduction of "special" white people was starting to get on my nerves. "Roy is over it"? AHAHAHAHAHAHA. That's a good one. Jason Claus approves of the torching of enemy enclaves. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	glossing 2008-12-21 09:44 am UTC (link)
	But Ollie was mean to Roy! I love the man, but he's full of fail a lot of the time. <3 Naughty Racetrack -- I hope you're okay? (Reply to this) (Thread)

inlovewithnight
2008-12-21 09:55 am UTC (link)

I was telling Kate above that the sum-up of the defense of Ollie was "Anyway, Roy is over it, so it doesn't matter." WELL OKAY THEN.

I cleaned the bites out right away and today they're only a little bit swollen, so I think I'm fine. In the future, she gets shut up in the bedroom BEFORE visitors come into the house. Valuable lesson learned. She's usually not THAT bad about strangers, so I have no idea what brought that level of hysteria on. Cats, what is there to be said?

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	glossing 2008-12-21 10:00 am UTC (link)
	Mmmmm, I'm sure Roy is JUST FINE NOW. Yeah. (Technically, it's been, what? Maybe eight years? Yeahhhhhhhhh.) Poor kitty! Poor you! Btw, I'm totally with you on Iron Fist; the mystical Asian stuff kept putting me off, even though I love Heroes for Hire and Danny's wee little ballet slippers. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

inlovewithnight
2008-12-21 10:03 am UTC (link)

Dick helped him feel better! Dick is very helpful that way.

I think what I want Iron Fist to do is either address the issue head-on with some *resentment* toward Danny and a textual (instead of implied, like I mentioned to Kate above) acknowledgement that Danny and Randall are aberrations and weird, or else to just stop FOCUSING on that and have more Danny running around New York with Luke and Misty and Colleen deflating him on a regular basis. Because that's great.

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	glossing 2008-12-21 12:21 pm UTC (link)
	Dick helped! ~~And so did Barry~~. It sounds like Iron Fist is just kind of...treading water these days? I should catch up. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	oneangrykate 2008-12-21 01:23 pm UTC (link)
	I should catch up. Don't. I mean, the new creative team isn't awful, but that spark of fun and awesome is pretty much gone. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	glossing 2008-12-21 01:25 pm UTC (link)
	Hee, noted! I still need to finish reading the Bru/Fraction/whoever early ones, though. I got distracted by original canon, and then I took a dislike to Fraction, and then I forgot. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	oneangrykate 2008-12-21 01:43 pm UTC (link)
	I understand everyone slapping the "wunderkind" label on Fraction, but I think it's a tad premature? Yeah, he's better than your average Big 2 writer, and I was pretty cool with the Kate issue he wrote, but I feel like he often goes for the easy way out or the cheap shot. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	inlovewithnight 2008-12-21 01:25 pm UTC (link)
	Ugh, that's a shame to hear. :\ (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	oneangrykate 2008-12-21 01:44 pm UTC (link)
	I'm just pretending that the Bru/Frac run was one long miniseries. Their run is pretty satisfying if read alone. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	glossing 2008-12-21 04:31 pm UTC (link)
	But hey, there's years and years of Power Man & Iron Fist! :) (Reply to this) (Parent)

caia_comica
2008-12-21 05:27 pm UTC (link)

...wait, you were at

marag's, and you met people who were even *more* crazy with the Ollie-defending than I am? Man. The things you don't really expect to find out about folks who are on your flist.

And the Iron Fist legacy is definitely *in* the older stuff, but as far as I know Brubaker and Fraction have done more with former Fists than the prior ones did. I'm blanking on a lot of the details--for whatever reason it's a canon I have a really hard time keeping track of. And yes, the racial issues are icky.

...but Danny and Luke and Misty and Colleen SO TOTALLY need to be having a foursome. :)

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